I chat with Matthew Milioni of Followers of the Way. We focus primarily on positive anarchy, which is a topic I feel is often lacking in discussion. We know that government is evil, but what is the alternative? Check out our discussion for a look at what No King But Christ might look like. 0:00:00 Intro 0:04:00 Is abstention from government a shirking of our Christian duty to do good in the world? 0:16:00 Is it a false dichotomy to say we can't serve God AND government? 0:26:20 The impracticality of governmental pursuit and coercion vs. example 0:31:25 Voting as religion and the sacralism of the state 0:39:50 Voting as a tool to appease and silent the masses and quell civil uprisings 0:45:25 How government steals the credit and props itself up as savior in regard to societal good done by activists 0:48:35 Government is idealistic, and Jesus is a better and more practical savior than government 0:56:35 False dichotomy part 2: can't we serve God through government? 1:00:20 Democracy and voting are inherently coercive and factional, so what about decision making in the church? 1:08:55 If the police and laws do good and provide order in a fallen world, how do we navigate issues like legitimate lawsuits for damages, calling the police for intruders, or reporting sexual abuse? 1:24:15 Informing the state about crimes in their domain vs. petitioning the state to use their sword on my behalf 1:30:00 How do I maintain a consistent application of noncoercion to other areas, like parenting and spanking? 1:35:10 Isn't justifying spanking based on the benefit for my kids the same consequentialism Christians who vote use? 1:39:00 What about Jesus ruling with a rod of iron, and Christians ruling in the age to come? That sounds like we're wielding government and sword. 1:47:41 Christocentric vision as core 1:52:27 Matthew plugs his stuff 1:53:54 Outro